Canoes hold their value exceptionally well. There is little worry about capsizing in calm conditions with the Adventure's wide, flat hull. Much tougher than I was in my 20's but definitely not stronger. Also note the paddle's edge which speaks to how little use this canoe had. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe Asking 1250.00 Best OfferFiberglass Hull with wood gunnels and cane seats, In good condition. the last three digits month and year of manufacture. Top picks: Best Mad River canoes for 2023, Alabama Mountain Lakes Tourist Association, The Great Canadian Kayak Challenge & Festival, Best Canoe Brands For Tripping, Whitewater, Fishing & More, Tripping Canoe Review: Mad River Expedition 176, Mad River Malecite Ultralite Canoe Review, Survive Just About Anything On Your Next Paddling Trip. Thanks again everyone for the information. account. Can anyone break down how the numbers work so I can know the exact model, material, gunwales, date and color? Mad River Sunrunner Canoe. I bought the boat in 1976. In 94-96 they made KE versions however my 94 catalog does not mention them. Archived Catalogs. If you prefer kneeling when you paddle, make sure that your feet fit comfortably underneath the bench seats. Thank you for your consideration. I am looking at some craiglist canoes this weekend. Its a beautiful canoe with graceful lines, Swifts classic two-tone color scheme and features like cherry seats and yokes. Its rare to find a canoe selling for less than half of its original price, but when those are listed, they often sell quickly. But youd want to make sure you had calm conditions for going onto the Wisconsin. A UV-resistant coating provides additional sunprotection. They were all nice boats, just never caught on out West. This canoe has provenitself time and again on trips I have taken in canada, maine, n.h. vt. We bought it at Battenkill Canoe in Arlington Vermont in September of 1997. How would you spend your money for general use? Mad River Canoe Replacement seats. Someone here might know at a glance if this is glass as I too am suspecting. Designed my Mad River founder Jim Henry, and built with a "Kevlar 49" layup, she is both strong and light at 65lbs. You can easily change out the seats. Sunrunner. Paddlesports participation is booming, driving the demand for outdoor equipment, whether its new or used. Swift Canoe and Kayak builds the composite Explorer canoes in South River, Ontario, and the T-Formex Explorer is made at the Esquif factory in Framption, Quebec. Best, 68 lbsMust be glass. If I again come up with 60 lbs then who knows. In 2022, Confluence Outdoor, Mad Rivers parent company, announced they were pausing canoe production. The Sunrunner was one of a series of 17'2" touring hulls designed by Jim Henry in the 80s and 90s. Its a modern hull that does a lot of things very well. My wife loves the Camper because its initial stability is so good. Thank you for the comments. For day trips a 16 foot canoe is fine, maybe even 15 feet. That is, if I intend to do so. Does anybody know how to decipher mad river serial numbers? by pblanc Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:59 pm, Post I load my canoes onto a 4-Runner and I think your FJ is the same height so it might be a challenge for you two and especially for you alone when you want to go solo. They are comparable to other popular canoe companies, like Nova Craft or Esquif. 2) Is there any potential problem with a very thin gap between the two-part gunwales on either side as resetting the screws does little to close the gap? Thanks, Pip. no favorites. Try (carefully) sitting in it while the canoe is resting on grass. Any ideas what they are? Make There are some design aspects that you might overlook in a photo that can drastically affect your paddling experience. in color. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. heres a thead from the archives: *Prices shown are manufacturer suggested retail prices, including taxes. It may be a little lighter than the Camper but Id expect it to be in the low 50s. I will go cyber shopping sometime soon. EDIT: The bathroom scale weight still presents a mystery. Since the change, all the # tells someone is month and year. Perhaps some solo with fishing in mind but again on small ponds and lakes. I'll check out Ed's for the caning and some other wish list items. I like the stability of the Explorer but also the deep red color - although chocolate sounds good. Its very nice for flat/easy water. This route seems most consistent with original. For a 10-day trip we carried about 310 lbs of flesh, 35 lb food pack, 45 lb gear pack (which could loose 10 lbs if I can convince myself to leave our rubber boots at home) and a 20 lb backpack with fishing gear, med kit, raingear, etc. This gives the Journey and Explorer more secondary stability, which helps the canoe recover if its on its edge in more dynamic water. As we get older weight matters. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe. People upgrading or cleaning out a garage may just be trying to get rid of the boat rather than recoup much money. The camo seems to be too high quality and intricate for an individual to have done, and it appears to be under the gel coat inside and outside of the hull. I am really looking for the same age Explorer in the same deep red color or other non red (cherry) or standard green. Throughout the companys history, Mad River has introduced and phased out different canoe models. id of old Mad river canoeI came for a similar reason trying to find the exact material of my MADEX135E787 What I cant figure out is what our model is. If you find a Mad River canoe not currently listed on its website, you can get more information about the model by looking through the companys archived catalogs. TB, Hey RobWhat can you tell me about my boat. Old Town - Camper 15 from 1996 (an aqua color that the wife thinks is great) and a Discovery 174 - I think the camper will be lighter and easier to load and unload. by openboat Fri Nov 06, 2015 4:25 am, Post Nice canoe. Hi Rob, My Mad River Canoe serial # is MAD AX988G798. Like Mad River, they are extremely affordable. They are not as wide, meaning they wont have the same initial stability. 3/8 . It may not display this or other websites correctly. 5h ago . 12.5 inch deep center. 3/4 . Ive had a Bell Morningstar RX and its a great boat. About 67lbsThe Sunrunner was one of a series of 17'2" touring hulls designed by Jim Henry in the 80s and 90s. http://www.paddling.net/message/showThread.html?fid=advice&tid=929356 All of our kevlar Mad River canoes, a Monarch, a Malecite and an Explorer, have HINs ending in K. I was curious about the various MRC listings for kevlar hybrid/PVC/Airex composite layups in the Sunrunner and other models and looked through some old catalogs for explanation. by pblanc Wed Nov 04, 2015 10:43 pm, Post Looking for a tandem canoe for a couple in our mid-fifties. - Last Updated: May-03-08 8:58 AM EST -. Just kidding $600 for the camper and $800 for the Discovery both say original owners. The Sunrunner was one of a series of 17'2" touring hulls designed by Jim Henry in the 80s and 90s. You can find nearby dealers by using their dealer locator tool. I am looking at buying another Mad River Canoe and need to understand the serial number. The kevlar PVC version was sometimes billed as Kevlar H (for Hybrid). The Explorer and the Malecite were their most popular and versatile tandem models. Their heaviest boats are made from polyethylene, like the 85-pound Adventure 16. Not all canoes are built equal. I guess I cant decipher the material from my numbers thoughkevlar or fiberglass, Another Serial Number QuestionI just purchased a canoe after a 10 year hiatus. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe: Asking $1250.00 / Best OfferFiberglass Hull with wood gunnels and cane seats, In good condition. That looks like a great option. Its green Royalex with wood gunnels, cane insert seats and is 16 feet long. Id lean towards the Camper for you and suggest that you and your wife try loading it to make sure youre comfy with the weight. As of now not planning to do anything different with the seat hangers or frames as they are really tight. Mad River canoes manufacturing location depends on the material. 6,613 were here. Finding used canoes requires frequent searching. Get Started. The flat bottom on the Camper makes it feel stable on calm water. Mine are really beat up, so the boat is without any decks right now. That said, if you spot a good condition, reasonably priced Wenona Aurora or Mad River Malecite (especially in kevlar), Id favor those two over the five you listed. Mad River Malecite, Bought 1994, used little, includes 2 wood paddles, mats, block for car top carrying. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe: Asking $1250.00 / Best OfferFiberglass Hull with wood gunnels and cane seats, In good condition. Fully featured and loaded with amenities, they're also very stable and paddle quite efficien. Thanks very much. Shallow vee hulls have a unique feel in the water and they typically carve turns very gracefully. If the humidity ever drops so the oil can completely dry, I hope to get it out on the water for a test drive yet this fall. Manufactured mid 1990's17 feet 2 inch long, 33.5 inch gunwale width, 12.5 inch deep center, Bow/stern 19.5, 18.5, 1.75 inches of rocker. if you could help me id it I would appreciate it. Been trying to reach Mad River for at least a week with no luck. What surprised me was that some of the canoes are from the 1990s and must have had little use or well maintained. No wood rot. Designed my Mad River founder Jim Henry, and built with a "Kevlar 49" layup, she is both strong and light at 65lbs. No wood rot. Looks like someone purchased it, polished and putting up for sale. 4/10 . They are now up on the MRC website under archived catalogs. We have tooling for many more products than are offered here, such as Special Editions and retired models. The different materials match various price brackets, and their designs have lasted years because they work. Your boat is stunning and you must be right about the ash as I paid attention to the weight of the yoke yesterday and too light to be oak. Unless youre prepared for a hefty shipping fee, be wary of buying large items like Mad River canoes off eBay or other international auction sites. Based on the specs that Mike provided it relatively narrow and as a "stretched Malecite" your planned load is idealthe boat will be fast, maneuverable, and lightly loaded. It's super gentleand that's what is on the Blackhawk in the pic. Mad Rivers archive list tells what years each of the models were produced but that only narrows down the options to the canoes manufactured in 1997(of which there are several) but doesnt get us to our specific model. ABS (acrylonitrile butadiene styrene) plastic layers encase both sides of the foam to protect it and add stiffness to the shape. 1) The FC (Fiberglass Cloth) build does not show the floor being painted with "Protective Surface Paint" like all three of the Kevlar builds do. Find Mad River in Boats For Sale. The Mad River is 1998 (seems like they made that model for a short time - 2 years? No wood rot.17 feet 2 inch long, 33.5 inch gunwale width, 12.5 inch deep center, Bowstern 19.5, 18.5, 1.75 inches of rocker. Discussion of all things WhiteWater Canoe related, Moderators: kenneth, sbroam, TheKrikkitWars, Mike W., Sir Adam, KNeal, PAC, adamin, Post That is an appendage. While firsthand experience is the best way to fully realize a canoes performance, expert reviews are the next best way. Here is another twistIn 94-96 the KV versions are listed at 55 lbs however in 97 it jumps to 59 which is just 2 lbs shy of what I measured. Also, any other info you HIN geeks can provide would be awesome. See photo. If youre eager to get on the water, then prepare to pay a bit more in the summertime. In reality the thing is a bit too pretty for me to drag across beaver dams or portage through downfall. Best for leisurely excursions on smallish lakes and ponds, bad for whitewater Seems weird that it costs $24 when he will sell you a brand new cane seat with frame for $28 but I liked the idea of keeping the factory seat frame on my solo boat. It would be worthwhile to spend the extra money for a kevlar boat. Thanks for the suggestion on the seat trusses and also the link to Ed's Canoe. You should be able to tell if this is the case as there will be a visible roughly football-shaped raised area on the hull bottom where the Airex foam bottom core is and the raised contour of around 7 side ribs extending from that up to the gunwale line. That said Swift has a Burgandy color standard, and Hemlock makes an excellent tandem that can be Special ordered in whatever color you desire. I just found one error in the "Boats By Year" PDF as it states the only KL Sunrunner was in '94 however all catalogs (94-97) list the KL version. 3/4 . MadRiver was trying to compete against Sawyer an 16' Mad River Explorer Canoe $400 oboRoyalex Hull Solid Mahogony Trim & Seats20 Years Old - Used about twice every summer need to sell to free up garage space Just in time for ski to sea competition paddle and two life jacketsHas condition issues, not pretty! 68 lbsMust be glass. Enjoy! . Mad River Sunrunner Canoe - $1,250 (fairfield) Mad River Sunrunner Canoe: Asking $1250.00 / Best OfferFiberglass Hull with wood gunnels and cane seats, In good condition. No wood rot. At 61 lbs it falls oddly in between the listed weights for Fiberglass (67 lbs) and Kevlar (55 lbs). It's green Royalex with wood gunnels, cane insert seats and is 16 feet long. BTW, I use the term geek quite fondly! 1981 Mad River Canoe T.W. Asking $700 for it. The Sunrunner could handle any kind of weather. 17' Mad River Canoe teak gunals excelent condition, non tiping. If you are going to car top your canoe, the lighter the better. Glad I'm not the only one needing to dig into old documents to find answers. I was tempted because it looked like a good deal but already have a Bell Northwind 16rx that I set up for solo. There have been some great deals recently but always a day late. The "Boats By Year" guide was made at least as late as 2011 so this could make sense. A company representative reports that they hope to start making canoes again in 2023. Mad River Sunrunner - Kevlar with cane seats and wood gunwales and is a 1998. We are looking for general use mostly lake, pond or get onto the Wisconsin river flowage and paddle around and fish. They are focusing resources on two of their other brands, Perception and Wilderness Systems, to meet the surging demand for kayaks. Throwback to 2 years ago when we took our new-to-us Sunrunner on its first voyage in a somewhat sad (but up and coming) urban river. These canoes are a step beyond recreational canoes. There is little worry about capsizing in calm conditions with the Adventures wide, flat hull. 17 feet 2 inch long. Mad River typically appended a "K" to the end of the HIN on their Kevlar boats. 4/13 . Only the SR921 is not strictly defined by the coast guard. I am going to put it all back together today so will send a "finished" photo out later. This may not always be possible, especially when buying a usedone. Thanks. My next question is with this boat in pretty much like new paddling shape what is it worth? Thanks. As of yesterday I had convinced myself this was a kevlar boat judging by how the weight felt as I shouldered it a number of times and put it on the truck. If anyone has information, please share. When looking at a used canoe, check the wooden gunwales for any signs of cracking or rot. Both have a good reputation for durability. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe: Asking $1250.00 / Best OfferFiberglass Hull with wood gunnels and cane seats, In good condition. We've reincarnated Jim Henry's original benchmark design, the standard for versatile performance, with the all new rugged and abuse ready T-formex material. People recognize this and increase the price of used boats when demand is high. The versatile canoe for getting started; great for sportsmen and families, the Adventure 16 is an amazing value. Thanks - that one was just out of my search area that I used - added another 50 miles and now I see it. MadRiver was trying to compete against Sawyer and Wenonah in . 3) This one may be a bit of a stretch butFor the KH build, the layer just beneath the outer gelcoat states it is "S Glass" and when I search images for S Glass I see photos of weaves just like what I see with my boat. Might not sound like much, but it makes a big difference. Also the hanger bolts are all bent just so as to make everything hang perfect & tight. Thank you! Mad River Sunrunner - Kevlar with cane seats and wood gunwales and is a 1998. The best way to know if a canoe is right for you is to give it a try. thx. If youre considering a Mad River canoe, this article will help you decide which one is right for you. Figured this was good as anything even if the scale is off 5 lbs being the weight difference should be more-or-less accurate. If you can measure your boat, I can look at the catalog and tell u what model. The Sunrunner was one of a series of 17'2" touring hulls designed by Jim Henry in the 80s and 90s. If the present era of supply chain delays and booming interest in paddlesports has taught us anything, its that used canoes are nearly impossible to find in the summer. Its best if the canoe has been kept inside, or at the very least, away from direct sunlight. The gunwales are square. Raised none the less. Sun bleached, 18' Mad River fiberglass canoe. Looks like a beautiful canoe. If Im reading this right, youre looking for: tandem canoe also usable as occasional solo to fish, mostly lake and pond, no whitewater, no camping. Plus, with the tractor seats, hard to solo unless you add a drop-in center seat. I would also consider other manufacturers with wood gunwales if equal to the Explorer - Penobscot? Last week I did contact Confluence/MR tech support for PDFs of MR catalogs from '95 - 2000 as I already had the '94. Kevlar Fusion and carbon are composite renditions of the Explorer. The Explorer and the Malecite were their most popular and versatile tandem models. Completely agreed that plastic end caps are hokey however very practical if this thing will be used as a tripper. reserved. Personally dont like to deal with the upkeep of wood gunwales, but some folks love the natural feel and enjoy the craft of maintaining them. I agree with the comment that it would be worth adding regular webbed seats. The Sunrunner was one of a series of ~ 17' touring hulls Jim Henry designed in the 80s and 90s. How about personality? No wood rot.17 feet 2 inch long, 33.5 inch gunwale width, 12.5 inch deep center, Bow/stern 19.5, 18.5, 1.75 inches of rocker. Their hulls have a rounder, shallow-arch shape, in contrast to the flatter bottom of the Adventure. 1981 Mad River Canoe T.W. Mad River Model Produced Sunrunner KH 1996-1997 Sunrunner KL 1994 Synergy RX 1996-2000 Other than the crack in the wood gunwale near the stern end, everything looks fine. This ID# is MADSR921C494. The tradeoff is that it does not maneuver as readily. The "Boats By Year" guide was made at least as late as 2011 so this could make sense. Its available in two sizes, 16.5 and 15.5 feet. Recreational canoes are a great choice for new paddlers or those who value stability over speed. Camper is a similar but better choice. no hidden. Would a glass lay-up have a raised floor? 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