By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. 5. With that being said, Infinite Zamasu's regeneration ability surpasses even Majin Buu's, as even the slightest trace of Infinite Zamasu can reform into clones that are all equal in power, something Buu is incapable of doing. Jiren can defeat Merged Zamasu for sure but probably not Infinite Zamasu so he will lose. Zamasu Wins both anime and manga. Isn't it stated on Toei's website that Zamasu's power/will went out of control. Official Superhero Database stats. Ultimately, this crusade leads him into conflict with Goku, Vegeta, and Future Trunks in a no holds barred apocalyptic showdown. He didn't take out Jiren during this case lol, and that would contradict the ToP statements as Zamasu was never shown to expand his size more than the future universe 7's space-time axis in the process of effecting the present timeline and nothing else. 2. At least Dragon Ball is popular enough to attract such attention. Goku digs into his pocket to find a Senzu Bean but instead finds the button to call Future Zeno. In the end, it took Future Zeno himself to defeat this powerful force by erasing the entire multiverse in that timeline completely. In the anime, a short time after Fused Zamasu is split in half and seemingly destroyed by Trunks, vanishing into nothingness, Fused Zamasu's will survived as a result of Future Zamasu's immortality and appeared as a large column of dark energy that erupts from the place where he disappeared, growing up into the sky and splitting into multiple beams before taking on a cloud-like form. This thread is pointless, tiers are given through sheer size, and arguing that the saiyans held back an attack for a moment only shows that they should also be low 2-C (on a much lower level, but the same tier regardless). Jiren has no way for putting him down permanently. Infinite Zamasu, after fully forming, was going to literally break through the boundary between the Future Trunks' timeline and the present timeline through sheer power after it took over the entirety of the multiverse. present timeline. Just want to re-check that specific episode and see what Whis actually said about it. This article is about the character, Infinite Zamasu. Because just being something doesn't mean you can lift it too. It's interesting that Jiren can't beat IZ, because he was supposed to be canonically superior; kind of shows how not even the authors themselves have total control over how powerful the characters are, they might end up making a character too powerful by accident. However, power levels are a fickle thing in Dragon Ball and there are still several characters who could find ways to win in a potential skirmish. Expanding is growing bigger. Unfortunately for Kefla, Jiren is far stronger than Ultra Instinct Goku, who beats Kefla without even being at the top of his game or fully understanding his new strength. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. @phillip33: vegito blue was stomping zamasu though. @03s7: Jiren has his own version of hakai, he was about to erase Krillin, Gohan, and 18. The Superhero Database Classification number, or SHDB Class, is a number that represents the overall 'power' of a character. Whis stated that the Hakai wouldn't kill him. Gravity? Anyone below Super Shenron shouldn't be able to do a thing to him and the angels are most definitely below him. A discussion-dedicated Dragon Ball subreddit. His only goal in whatever remains of hismind from his previous incarnations seems to be to become one with the entire universe and beyond in order to kill all life forms, mortal and god; andbecome justice itself. Does Jiren have a chance by nuking the Universe Zamasu spread into? Hell, even Goku thought he could handle Infinite Zamasu if he had another senzu bean available Infinite Zamasu required Zen'o himself to get rid of. Whis warns Goku of this early in the arc, that if Zeno gets pissed there's a good chance he'll just nuke everything. Dragon Ball Super spends a lot of time establishing the threat of Gods of Destruction, but it's actually their supplementary Angels that possess greater power. Cell. RELATED: 10 Funniest Moments From The Dragon Ball Franchise. In this form, Infinite Zamasu's regeneration is so great, he was able to survive being blasted to smithereens and even have said pieces regenerate to form clones of Fused Zamasu. VS Battles Wiki is a FANDOM Anime Community. Although it is initially blocked by the three Saiyans, they are overpowered at the end of the blast and are knocked down, albeit successfully protecting Future Mai, Bulma, Shin, and Gowasu as well as the Time Machine. Did you check the thread where it was first accepted? Whether Vados is still stronger than Whis or not remains to be seen, but physical strength is never going to be the deciding factor when someone faces an Angel. manga zamasu I'm not so sure. In a broader sense, it was just a throwaway line which is used for Goku to find the Zeno button and isn't enough for any kind of change. Dragon Ball Super's manga wisely puts Vegeta on his own path that reflects his own strengths rather than merely imitating Goku's accomplishments. A Super Saiyan Blue fusion is intensely powerful and it becomes the world's saving grace during Zamasu and Goku Black's calculated reign of terror. Jiren fails to hit him before Zamasu becomes 2C and spanks. Doubt Angels can do anything to him. RELATED: Every Non-Canon Dragon Ball Z Movie, Ranked. The right side of his body had a resemblance to Super Saiyan Ros Goku Black. Even in Super during the Fused Zamasu fight he went for Vegito again, when Zamasu fused with the universe, opted to bring in the omni-king to take care of him instead, and against Jiren was completely fine with knocking Jiren out of the ring rather . Thanks to Kale's special Legendary Super Saiyan form, Kefla is several times stronger than the average fusion. People still missing the point of Zeno. As with the anime, the only person Infinite Zamasu fears the most and in fact the only person he has ever run away from is Future Zeno; he flees in fear when he announces his intent to erase him and the entire timeline. Just ask Pre-Crisis Supes, he's Tier 2 but he doesn't have LS feats on that level. Truyn tranh lin quan: Dr. Slump Neko Majin <!-esi -> . Claudio Swiss Well-Known Member Feb 20, 2020 #5 Jiren has no way of killing him the fact that zeno was required to nuke him tells you much In this state, Infinite Zamasu is a mass of Zamasu faces. That would explain the increase in power. He has that rating already. Beerus can't beat Infinite Zamasu. However, Goku then finds the device Zeno gave him, presses the button and, in an instant, Future Zeno appears. Just because you're a certain tier doesn't mean you can lift stuff at that level. Jiren is one of the most powerful characters in the history of Dragon Ball.Jiren initially arises as the main antagonist of Dragon Ball Super's Tournament of Power and he stands in the way of Goku and the rest of Universe 7 as they fight for their universe's survival.. RELATED: 10 Best Villains From The Dragon Ball Movies, Ranked As one of Dragon Ball's strongest characters, Jiren is capable . Hit's physical abilities are practically unparalleled. So my reply to this topic would probably be merged zamasu simply cause he is immortal from the dragon balls but thats my opinion, still jiren can be infinitely stronger or weaker then zamasu or be at the same power but do to consequences of it being inside a different dimension we cant take to many feats in that realm to show who wins or not, meaning all we can do is compare them both to goku and use goku as a reference to show who is more powerful then the other, so lets take gokus max multiplier compared to super saiyen 3 i have ever seen from seth the programmer which i dont really know what to think about and he thinks super saiyen god is a 200,000,000,000 times multiplier compared to ss3 so that makes gokus god form 8e+13 times stronger then base form so if we keep in consideration gokus super saiyen god super saiyen form is just super saiyen god with super saiyen form merged that adds a 50 times multiplier onto that then adding in the the times 20 multiplier from kaioken times 20, and knowing he used the spirit bomb as a power source for his ultra instinct that means the only thing we can do is assume the spirit bomb gave him another x20 multiplier for energy at least so although we dont know his true power of ultra insinct we can only make assumptions so i just gave another times 20 multiplier and that makes ultra instinct 1.6e+18 times stronger then gokus base form at least or bassicly 1,600,000,000,000,000,000 and we are gonna keep it that way to stay accurate as possible and now knowing jiren didnt have to difficulty of a time handeling goku lets be generous and say he was only giving it his 1% all and that would mean jiren is 158,400,000,000,000,000,000 times more powerful then gokus base form and thats being generous, now knowing the rings multiply both users power together that means knowing merged zamasu is pretty much on par with super saiyen god super saiyen kaioken x20 vegito that means with the x20 multiplier from kaioken and x50 multipler from the super saiyen form all stacked on top of gokus god form which is 8e+13 times base form originally that makes it 8e+16 with those stacked on top know since the rings multiply the powers together and knowing goku and vegeta are close to the same power that means 8e+16 times 8e+16 = 6.4e+33 so merged zamasu is at max 6.4e+33 times gokus base form or bassicly 6,400,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 times stronger then gokus base form and that means ultimately merged zamasu is 40,404,040,000,000 times stronger then jiren at least and thats being generous the only time it would be off is if the authors made ultra instinct more OP, or bassicly plot induced crap happens but thats the only thing that can change this, cause right know im just using pure logic and scienctific reasoning so you can choose to believe it or not but this is how i will back up my claim (which is better then nothing imo). In the end it took Zeno to take out Infinite Zamasu. In the end, Goku Black's fiery rage isn't enough to defeat Jiren. What is up with that? He didn't erase everything because it was needed kill Zamasu, he erased everything because he was pissed. JavaScript is disabled. Zamasu's will[4] is Infinite Zamasu's only form in the anime. You said this needs to stop. All that Beerus needs to do is catch Jiren off-guard and he's as good as erased. Manga Zamasu can just keep pricking his finger and bringing out more and more, and anime Zamasu is the literal universe at this point spreading throughout time Only complete annihilation from Zeno or some high angel is enough Fused Saiky no Kami Nov 6, 2021 #8 Jiren is credited as " the mightiest foe in Dragon Ball history " numerous times throughout the airing of the Tournament of Power, and the Wiki currently uses this statement, alongside others, to scale a suppressed Jiren above Infinite Zamasu, making him Low 2-C but not giving him Immeasurable Lifting Strength which has affected the top-tiers of Zamasu aims to destroy all mortals, which he considers to be nothing but sinful vermin. Lucy has that for being a universe. Promotional material doesn't mean anything if it contradicts the story. Jiren wins if it's Limit breaker. In the anime, this being is the surviving will of Fused Zamasu left over from his destruction because of Future Zamasu's immortality. In the anime, however, Infinite Zamasu can still be heard emitting the same insane laughter even after Future Zeno appeared. Broly is a Saiyan from Universe 7 who grew up on Planet Vampa after being exiled by King Vegeta long ago. No. A Fight Without End: Who Can Topple Jiren? Title says all. I told you not to mess witht he DB scaling in the last thread. Reasonably, he can just beat him up then vape him completely. It's not about the battles. These two mechanical creations give Gohan and Piccolo a tough time until they ascend to their new transformations. His own twisted idea of justice and order made manifest.Gowasu in "With New Hope in His Heart - Farewell, Trunks". Dragon Ball Super Anime: Fused Zamasu Low 2-C Upgrade (I Actually Know What I'm Talking About I Swear), Massive Dragon Ball Super Scaling Revision, Dragon Ball Super Anime: Fused Zamasu and the Rival Danger Scale. He didn't think he could take him. Ill give you that. jiren is stronger than him but can he vaporize him enough so that he doesn't split bodies? In Dragon Ball Super, it doesn't get any stronger than the Omni-King, Zeno. While the line is manga only, it matches up with the anime where Whis relies on other methods to deal with immortal Zamasu when he travels to the future with Trunks at the end of the arc. When merged Zamasu took over the 12 universes , Beerus just went '' That's unfortunate. Why couldn't you just listen to us and not make this thread? Interestingly, the visage of Fused Zamasu that appears is his original, base state, rather than the Super Saiyan Ros form that Fused Zamasu previously had his body destroyed in. Universe Zamasu spread into because he was about to erase Krillin, Gohan, and Trunks. Can Topple Jiren it stated on Toei 's website that Zamasu 's will [ 4 ] is Infinite.. Lt ;! -esi - & gt ; lt ;! -esi - & gt.... 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