I saw that you guy posted threads on what happened to me and i gotta say some of you guys know your stuff, that is exactly what happend, constructive intent is bull**** there is no such thing in the statutes. Announces Candidacy For The CommonwealthCourt. I rank my P9s's and P7s as the pinocle of mass produced pistols. On August 27, 2009, Jesus Amador, Jr., was arrested by an undercover officer when he sought to sell his Heckler and Koch SP89 pistol. Yes, paid the $4250. Think there was a prototype that may have been made earlier by HK for the ATF, but only one. Also the cutout the case was orobably foe a MP5 which would have to cutout and a SP89 will fit in it. NES/MFS April Giveaway ***Ruger Wrangler***, (SOLD) PreBan Pre Ban HK H&K USP9 Pistol Chambered in 9mm, Unfired Glock 19 Gen 4 with Trijicon HD NS - SPF. HK SP89. Comes standard on all . Your local FFL must be willing to accept shipments from Individuals, orI'll have to add on the fee my local FFL would charge to handle the transaction and shipping from here. Consider both sides in the vaccine debate, if youcan. Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox! https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/florida-man-arrested-for-constructive-possession-of-an-sbr.472404/page-2, Hello guys its me Jesus Amador with the so called illegal sbr. Pennsylvania Police DO NOT Need a Warrant to Search Your Vehicle!!!! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox! Well folks my name is Jesus Amador, you out there might just know me as Digitalage03, i recently met up with a prospected buyer for my sp89 clone pistol, well turns out the guy was a undercover cop and the reason he wanted to meet up with me is because he saw that i was selling the pistol with a stock as one of the accessories, which by the way it was never on the gun and it is legal to own, you just cant install it without a tax stamp, well anyways once i met up with him not only did i get slammed to the ground and had about 7 armed cops (one of which) had a loaded 12ga to the back of my head while on the ground handcuffed they also illegally searched my car and even had the balls to drive off in my car from private property to a public place so they can tear thru it before the towtruck came and got , Well anyone here that know thier laws about this know they are in serious trouble, considering that the basis of all this is a misinformed sherriff called Mike Scott. It may not display this or other websites correctly. But other than that 3weeks after the arrest charges where dissmissed and the gun is back in our possession with stock, kgrip and all, man was that detective PISSED!! For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. There are arguments both ways. Tony will chime in here shortly. I have my 07/02 licenses so I put the proper pack in it and have never been sorry about the expense. According to our research and serial number "21-14958" and HK date code "IK", this SP89 was made in 1989 and imported into the USA just before the Bush 1 Import Ban of 1989 (!! The letter will correspond with the number. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. wcbrowning (LogOut/ I was so lucky to be watching this forum when a TSC SP89 converted to full German spec K gun came up for sale. Was owned by dudes father previously. Come join the discussion regarding HK pistols, long arms, NFA arms, HK accessories, HK history and trivia and more. This page is intended as a guide to identify the various H&K manufactured MP5 variants. If you want an all German MP5K PDW host short barrel rifle, this is what you need to do it. Heckler & Koch SP89 Pre Ban - Semi Auto Pistols at GunBroker.com : 916310108. 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The conversion consist of a beautiful alloriginal HK-SP89 Date Code (KD) with a New B&T 3-Lug PDW Barrel Factory Threaded in the Popular 1/2X28 with a Thread-Protector, Semi-Auto Bolt Carrier Modified for Full-Auto, Combat/Flapper Magazine Release, New German HK"K" Grip, New German HK PDW Folding Stock Marked HK, Receiver RemarkedMP5-N. Thread starter AGG; Start date Jan 10, 2021; Status Not open for further replies. Use of the new SP5K as a short barreled rifle host will require you to use some U.S. made parts to be legal. How can I tell what year my HK firearm was made? Description: HK SP89 Like New with 2 clips (30-39) and 2 clip (15) Condition: Used, As New Brand: HK Caliber: 9mm (other) Item #: 931026391 SKU: SP89 Location: CA Trades Accepted: No Time Left: (Auction Ended) Shipping Notes: Buyer to pay for shipping HK SP89 only used once. - 42 USC 1983 Actions for Deprivation of Civil Rights With this pre-ban SP89, you can make it an all German short barreled rifle. Please don't IM / PM. Little did I know it was built like Swiss watch when I bought it. - Heckler & Koch The date code is located on the Left hand side of the pistol and is represented by two letters. Payment by PayPal "Friends and Family" option, or by Cashier's Check issued by one of the following banks: Bank of America, Chase, Citibank, US Bank or Wells Fargo Bank. Various date codes. No, the first SP89s were IK Date Coded ('89). Bought a SP5 K-PDW and no longer need a trade. I **DO NOT** Have The Box, Or Styrofoam. Yes, HK did not switch to a two letter date code until the late 70s. If you want an all German MP5K PDW host short barrel rifle, this is what you need to do it. why is this so differently named? You must log in or register to reply here. You are using an out of date browser. If you want to discuss, you can call the office to schedule an appointment. The Second Amendment: Enforcing the HellerDecision. Email only please. Can not purchase the new HK SP5k but i'm still in the game and with two Fleming sears and my MM21e GTG! JavaScript is disabled. - Indoor/Outdoor Range Implementation; and This item is in the category "Sporting Goods\Hunting\Gun Parts\Pistol". - Corporate Structure Advice With that said, I just purchased a date coded (1991) HK SP89. The demand of new HECKLER KOCH SP89 pistol's has risen 5 units over the past 12 months. FICG Files Complaint and Motion for Preliminary Injunction Challenging ATFs Final Rule onBumpstocks. While at Widener Law School, I was a member of the Widener Law Journal. A - 0 B - 1 C - 2 D - 3 E - 4 F - 5 G - 6 H - 7 I - 8 K - 9 (J is only used in magazine date codes) This USP Full Size .40S&W has a date code of KH putting its manufacture year at 1997 This p30 is much newer with a date code of BD putting its manufacture year at 2013. Heckler & koch 4 hk factory magazine.32 acp (7.65mm) 8 rounds early date (#7) this mag is for a. Hk magazines are produced to the same level of finish and quality as hk's firearms, with no compromises. So, if I owned a H&k sp89 I could not own but not install a forgrip without the $5 tax stamp? Register a free account today to become a member! $4,400, plus shipping. . Register a free account today to become a member! I also planned and taught several Firearms in Estates CLE classes for the Pennsylvania Bar Institute (PBI). Terrible treatment of American citizens. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Constructive Possession exists when a person knowingly has the power and intention at a given time to exercise dominion and control over an object, either directly or through others. Pretty simple. Florida Man Arrested for Constructive Possession of anSBR. Powered by Invision Community. So, why would you think that drug dealers have rights that should NOT be infringed? HK Date Codes. If you were to sell it how much do you want for it? B.s. Joined Nov 11, 2020 Posts 6,023 Location Alabama. You are using an out of date browser. But, one can legally sell an H&K SP89, so whats the twist? Just stumbled upon this article. If you want an all German MP5K PDW host short barrel rifle, this is what you need to do it. HK Proshop : For the Heckler and Koch Enthusiast. If you enjoy the forum please consider supporting it by signing up for aNES Membership The benefits pay for the membership many times over. The demand of used HECKLER KOCH SP89 pistol's has fallen 1 units over the past 12 months. Includes manual, warranty card, original box, and all the magazines pictured. Thats what i figured , i was hoping around 5k. Add at least two items to compare. My business partners wanted ATF 4473 (5300.9) Part 1 a few weeks ago and were made aware of a document management site that hosts an online forms library . March 12, 2021 in NFA Market Board. 01-08-2012, 10:22 AM gunsmithcats. I asked them who installed the barrel and what barrel it was. Asking $5200. - FFL Revocations; A video showing what to look for when buying real hk mp5 magazines. It probably had the grip and the stock on it. Great, thanks James! Pennsylvanias Marijuana Legislation How Many Bills Are Now Up inSmoke? --- $0.01 start--- No Reserve. All this work was done ty Terry Dyer. Mechanically excellent. Email if you'd like more or specific pictures of the gun. Vector SP89 SBR SW93, now a 53 SBR (brought back to life by Ghillie) PTR PDW-91, form1, ckh cashed 3/10/15, stamp approved 9/14/15, 6mo 4 days! Complete with three extra magazines and one unopened 100 round C-Mag drum magazine for the HK MP5 with black carrying pouch. The P9s is under appreciated that's for sure. If the stock and grip were kept at his home residence, and the gun were kept at his work or somewhere else so that the able to be assembled parts were at two separate locations, would this avoid the constructive possession problem? Its inherent accuracy makes it an excellent choice for target shooting and small-game hunting. Mr. Amador even posted pictures of his mugshot and more telling, a picture of the SP89 with all accessories in a case. HK Proshop : For the Heckler and Koch Enthusiast. But, one can legally sell an H&K SP89, so what's the twist? The nfa and the drug war as equally unconstitutional. Aug 15, 2020 (Edited) Have a mint condition first year IK SP89. The item "HK H&K HECKLER KOCH MP5 SP89 SP 89 SP-89 PARTS KIT UNFIRED" is in sale since Sunday, September 29, 2019. Will come with 2 HK 30 round IJ date coded magazines in an HK magazine clamp. Stamped date code ic 7.62x51. Compare (0) 1 item has been added. This firearm is in amazing condition like when it came from hk factory.Im located on the south shore can do a FTF transfer or meet at a FFL the (((ONLY))) trade Im looking for is a NIB H&k94 Thanks for looking . It may not display this or other websites correctly. You Will NOT be Disappointed. Change). The receiver was refinished in HK Black and the Barrel, Magazine Release & Bolt Carrier received a New Phosphate finish. Email me at wcNObrowning@hotSPAMmail.com Very interesting read. JavaScript is disabled. 1; No Samples to Show. US v. Turnbough, 1997 U.S. App. It will be easy to turn it back into the pistol it was when I bought it if I ever give up my license or die well, I guess my son's will convert it back if I die. - Forfeiture Proceedings is asking $700obo and I know that's is high. could they enforce it? I wrote an article on the Inaccuracy of the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record (NFRTR). Below is the date coding chart. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. HK Date Codes Date codes are the next thing that cause a little confusion for new HK owners. - Relief from Firearms Disabilities; i did not surprise me that they would arrest a person on a charge that does not exist. My bet was when he sold it to the guy there was audio and video of the whole thing. Being a Gunsmith Pros and Cons of this Popular Profession. HK pistols use a two letter date code to identify the year of manufacture. COVID-19 and Workers Compensation SoleRemedy? Also just for the record i at all times stated it was a pistol, never had the stock or grip on the pistol, notified the person it was illegal to put on without a stamp and even was going to assist in LEGALLY getting a sbr stamp thru a FFL , and of course i asked about if they where a florida resident as well as if they can legally own a gun. At both the state and federal levels, I represent FFLs and SOTs throughout Pennsylvania and the US regarding: Remove the words NO and SPAM from the email address. I handle cases at the Federal and State level for both FFLs and individuals. Pristine, no marks, never fired. This is not how free men are treated. There are currently no customer product questions on this lot. Click here for more information. Thread starter AGG; Start date . NFA and Constructive Possession: Myth or Reality? Most damning for Mr. Amador, other than being caught in possession of the SP89 with the shoulder stock and vertical grip is the fact that the case has a cut out for the SP89 to be placed in the case WITH the vertical foregrip, which would seem to connote, contrary to his position, that the SP89 was fitted with the foregrip at one point. Here is a rare piece Im looking to trade from my collection is a mint unfired H&k sp89 date coded with KA stamped from sterling West Virginia, gun comes with original shipping box the pistol was shipped in, styrofoam box , all manuals and warranty cards, 1 15rd dated mag. I can provide references to plenty of 100% positive feedback on multiple sites. Copyright 1999-2023, Sturmgewehr.com and Respective Members 87 would be IH Date Code; now there's HK94s made during this time and most likely someone may have converted one, but why mark it SP89 when MP5K would be more desirable (if . Here's a link to an online gallery of pictures: http://postimg.org/gallery/3356xvhwc/. Following in my father's footsteps, I am also a Board member for the Pottstown Police Athletic League (PAL). Excellent to very good condition pre-ban, IK date coded, all German HK SP89 pistol. Be sure to enter theNES/MFS April Giveaway ***Ruger Wrangler***. AGG. Mr. Amadors pistol, stock and vertical grip, on the other hand, could not have been assembled in any way that did not create a SBR or AOW. 2023 Rock Island Auction Company. Of course time found cheaper ways of getting things done but you have to appreciate the care the P9s received. If ATF Comes A Knocking, Only Surrender Your 80% Frame or Receiver Under Protest. This auction is for a USED H&K factory German-built straight 30-round 9x19 magazine for Heckler and Koch HK HK94, HK MP5, HK MP5SD, MP5K, MP5SD, SP5 and SP5K 9mm rifles, pistols, SBR and MG's. This is a PRE-1994-ban magazine with the date code IE on the body. The MP5 is derived from the HK G3 rifle that is chambered in 308. what does the '89' stand for? Publication date 1993 Topics hk, manual, sp89 Collection manuals_contributions; manuals; additional_collections Language English. A HECKLER KOCH SP89 pistol is currently worth an average price of $2,962.31 new . So say I walk into my local gun store and purchase a SIG516 rifle, and a SIG516 pistol. why arent they out in Chicago busting street drug dealers? March 12, 2021 in NFA Market Board Share 1 Absolutely Mint Example - Only Test Fired 2-3 Mags Includes both FA clipped & pinned lower (no trigger pack) & the original SP89 Semi Lower Housing (with semi trigger pack) 9mm Caliber Includes a 15rd HK Magazine Registered as an SBR (short barreled rifle) On Form 3 in NC. Used Sold [8] New Sold [41] No Samples to Show. So in short i will have thier ass, any suggestions out there? - ATF Compliance Inspections; With this pre-ban SP89, you can make it an all German short barreled rifle. Prince Law Offices, P.C. SF, James Heckler and Koch Certified Armorer (Heckler and Koch) Even if the user installed the unregistered DIAS in a semi-auto AR15 the rifle would only function semi automatically unless a M16 (hammer, trigger, selector and disconnector) fire control components were installed as well. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. 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