Although Lucinda Vann was owned by Jim Vann, she told about the death of "Rich Joe" Vann and the recovery of one of his arms, following the deadly explosion on his steamboat, the Lucy Walker. My father he say, "Now chillun, don't get smart; you just be still and listen, rich folks tryin tell us something" They come and call you, say so much money buried, tell you where it is, say it's yours, you come and get it. There was a house yonder where was dry clothes, blankets, everything. Marster had a big Christmas tree, oh great big tree, put on the porch. She come up and put her nose on your just like this---nibble nibble, nibble. Sometimes she pull my hair. Everbody goin' on races gamblin', drinkin', eatin', dancin', but it as all behavior everything all right. https://web.archive.org/web/20071026072208/http://www.cherokeebyblo https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/5977809/joseph-vann, Webbers Falls, Muskogee County, Oklahoma, United States of America. He didn't want em to imagine he give one more than he give the other. When night came we cut grass and put the bed clothes on top for a bed. Rende is a comune (municipality) in the province of Cosenza, Calabria, Italy, home to the headquarters of the University of Calabria.It has a population of about 35,000, or more than 60,000 if the university students living there are taken into account. When Marster Jim and Missus Jennie went away, the slaves would have a big dance in the arbor. They are not related to the Cherokee VANN family. Born in Cherokee, Chowan, North Carolina, United States on 1690 to Holesqua Chief Cornstalk Vann and Sarah Ann Champion. In 1829 Clement Vann told General Coffee that he was 83 years old and had been in the Cherokee nation for fifty years.Therefore it is highly unlikely that he could have been the father of the Cherokee Chief, James Vann b 1766, well before Clement Vann entered the Cherokee nation. The spring time give us plenty of green corn and beans too. I don't know what dey done it for, only to be mean, and I guess they was drunk. Lord no, he didn't. Joseph was the son of a Chief of the Cherokees James Vann, and Nancy Brown Vann. Different friends would come and they'd show that arm. Then I had clean ward clothes and I had to keep them clean, too! I'd like to go where we used to have picnics down below Webbers Falls. Because mamma was sick then he brought her sister Sucky Pea and her husband, Charley Pea, to help around wid him. Sometimes Joe bring other wife to visit Missus Jennie. Its massive walls and hand-carved woodwork show excellent workmanship, and its unique hanging staircase is a marvel that piques the interest of many visitors. The separation ended at a reunification council with the Cherokee Nation in 1809. Sometimes Joe bring other wife to visit Missus Jennie. I don't know what he done after that. There'd be a whole wagon-load of things come and be put on the tree. Marster and Missus was dead. Chief Born (05 Mar 1746/47) - Chowan, North Carolina Deceased 21 February 1809 - Buffington S Tavern, Georgia, United States Parents Edward Sr Vann ca 1693-1752 Mary Barnes ca 1696-1748 Spouses and children With Margaret Scott 1783-1845 Married about 1765, Spring Place, IT., GA., to Mary Wah-Li Christiana, Princess 1750-ca 1835 with Now I'se just old forgotten woman. When I left Mrs. McGee's I worked about three years for Mr. Sterling Scott and Mr. Roddy Reese. Everybody cry, everybody'd pretty nearly die. In the pre-dawn hours of November 15, 1842, the Negroes locked their still-sleeping masters and overseers in their homes. The grandson reported that the Vann Family lived in that house until "the War," when some 3,000 federal troops descended upon Webbers Falls. After it was wove they dyed it all colors, blue, brown, purple, red, yellow. 502-524. Betty Robertson's father worked aboard Joseph Vann's steamboat, Lucy Walker. Among the several hundred slaves owned by the Vanns at that time, many were skilled craftsmen and tradesmen capable of helping build such a fine house. He tell us for we start, what we must say and what to do. He said that those troops burned the Vann home during their pillage. Original newspaper article says captain/owner of the steamboat was David Vann. Dey didn't let us have much enjoyment. There was a house yonder where was dry clothes, blankets, everything. We had seven horses and a litle buffalo we'd raised from when its little. He wanted people to know he was able to dress his slaves in fine clothes. Women came in satin dresses, all dressd up, big combs in their hair, lots of rings and bracelets. By Kathy Roberts January 15, 2008 at 11:24:12. 5. Chief James Clement Vann married Mary Margaret "Peggy" Scott and had 14 children. Upon being brought to Fort Gibson, five slaves were held to stand trial for murdering the two bounty hunters. Do you know what I am going to do? Born on February 11, 1798, in Murray County in northwest Georgia, Vann was the son of Chief James Vann and Margaret "Peggy" Scott. I slept on a sliding bed. Lots of the slave children didn't ever learn to read or write. My mother was born way back in the hills of the old Flint district of the Cherokee Nation; just about where Scraper Oklahoma is now. Joseph Vann took the rebel slaves belonging to him out of the Cherokee Nation and permanently assigned them to work on his steamboats. Once they catch a catfish most as big as a man; that fish had eggs big as hen eggs, and he made a feast for twenty-five Indians on the fishing party. Sometimes I eat my bread this morning none this evening. My pappy was a kind of a boss of the negroes that run the boat, and they all belong to Old Maser Joe. He died when the boat's boilers exploded. One day Missus Jennie say to Marster Jim, she says, "Mr. Vann, you come here. Young Master Vann never very hard on us and he never whupped us, and ole Mistress was a widow woman and a good Christian and always kind. After we got our presents we go way anywhere and visit colored folks on other plantation. I sure did love her. 5 May 1910, d. 2002, Illinois. I went to see dem lots of times and they was always glad to see me. Web. He was married, but that din't make no difference he courted her anyhow. The home was subsequently owned by . The slaves who worked in the big house was the first class. After the explosion someone found an arm up in a tree on the bank of the river. 5, Special Issue: American Culture and the American Frontier (Winter, 1981), pp. James was a prominent chief in the Cherokee Nation. He was a Cherokee leader who owned Diamond Hill (now known as the Chief Vann House), many slaves, taverns, and steamboats that he operated on the Arkansas, Mississippi, Ohio, and Tennessee Rivers. Then we all have big dinner, white folks in the big house, colored folks in their cabins. The fugitive slaves killed the two bounty hunters and the slaves they had been returning joined those attempting to reach Mexico. And dishes, they had rows and rows of china dishes; big blue platters that would hold a whole turkey. Our marshal made us all sign up like this; who are you, where you come from, where you go to. I dont know about Robert Lee, but I know about Lees Creek. He worked in the gold mines. It was in the Grand River close to the ford, and winter time. He never come until the next day, so dey had to sleep in dat pen in a pile like hogs. Joseph H. Vann was born on February 11, 1798, at Spring Place in Georgia. I don't remember old Mistress name. Marster Jim and Missus Jennie wouldn't let his house slaves go with no common dress out. Chief Crazy James Vann James Clement Vann) Vann, Ii, <<Private>> Vann, Ii. James (Chief of Vann's Old Town) Vannfamily tree Parents Joseph Vann 1740- Unknown Christmas lasted a whole month. Those included in this collection all mention the Vanns. Dey kept after me about a year, but I didn't go anyways. My mammy was a Cherokee slave, and talked it good. Everybody pretty near to crazy when they bring that arm home. 1907 d. 1919 Chicago/Cicero, Ill. Theresa Marchese (Valentino) b. He had charge of all Master Chism's and Master Vann's race horses. Pappy's name was Caesar Sheppard and Mammy's name was Easter. I had a brother named Harry who belonged to the Vann family at Tahlequah. A town was laid out on his Hamilton Country farm which was called, Vanntown. Soon as you come out of the water you go over there and change clothes. Dey called young Mr. Joe "Little Joe Vann" even after he was grown on account of when he was a little boy before his pappy was killed. Young, Mary., "The Cherokee Nation: Mirror of the Republic", (American Quarterly), Vol. Mother Martha Price McNair (Vann) Father David Lewis "Jesse" "Cherokee Chief""Iron Head" Vann (Killed by Pin Indians in Civil War) Quick access. "Rich Joe" owned a large plantation on the Tennessee River near the mouth of the Ooltewah Creek. Oh the news traveled up and down the river. When father was young he would go hunting the fox with his master, and fishing in the streams for the big fish. Then he hide in the bushes along the creek and got away. After a bloody fracas in 1834, Colonel W. N. Bishop established his brother, Absolom Bishop, on the premises and Joseph Vann with his family was driven out to seek shelter over the state line in Tennessee. Rich Joe Vann died in Oct. 1844 when the boiler exploded on his steamboat, the "Lucy Walker" during a race with another vessel near New Albany, Ind. Marster had a little race horse called "Black Hock" She was all jet black, excepting three white feet and her stump of a tail. He had black eyes and mustache but his hair was iron gray, and everybody like him because he was so good natured and kind. It's on records somewhere; old Seneca Chism and his family. Old Master and Mistress kept on asking me did de night riders persecute me any but dey never did. Pappy is buried in the church yard on Four Mile Branch. Old mistress was small and mighty pretty too, and she was only half Cherokee. Perhaps because they had observed the prosperity so often achieved by slave-holding whites, Indians of mixed-blood were more apt to own slaves. The following oral history narrative is from the The WPA Oklahoma Slave Narratives in the Library of Congress, edited by T. Lindsay Baker, Julie Philips Baker: Yes Sa. Person Interviewed: Betty Robertson Location: Fort Gibson, Oklahoma Age: 93 I was born close to Webbers Falls, in the Canadian District of the Cherokee Nation, in the same year that my pappy was blowed up and killed in the big boat accident that killed my old Master. Christmas lasted a whole month. The commissary was full of everyting good to eat. Sometimes there was high waters that spoiled the current and the steamboats couldn't run. Dey was for bad winter only. They put white cloths on the shelves and laid the good on it. Old Master had some kind of business in Fort Smith, I think cause he used to ride into dat town about every day on his horse. In slavery time the Cherokee Negroes do like anybody else when they is a death, jest listen to a chapter in the Bible and all cry. Some had been in a big run-away and had been brung back, and wasn't so good, so he keep them on the boat all the time mostly. Master Jim and Missus Jennie was good to their slaves. They get something they need too. Pappy was the shoe-maker and he used wooden pegs of maple to fashion the shoes. In 1837 ptior to the main Cherokee Removal, he transported a few hundred Cherokee men, women, children, slaves and horses aboard a flotilla of flat boats to Webber's Falls on the Arkansas River in Indian Territory. All Indians lived around there, the real colored settlement was four mile from us, and I wasn't scared of them Indians for pappa always told me his master Henry Nave, was his own father; that make me part Indian and the reason my hair is long, straight and black like a horse mane. Father of Nancy Vann; David Vann; Sallie Blackburn Vore; William Vann; Sophia S. Johnson and 9 others; Charles J. Vann; Delilah Amelia Brewer; Joseph W. Vann; Jane Elizabeth Vann; James Springston Vann; Mary Frances Vann; John Shepherd Vann, Sr.; Henry Clay Vann and Minerva Vann less Yes I was! Everybody, white folks and colored folks, having good itme. When dat Civil War come along I was a pretty big boy and I remember it good as anybody. In the master's yard was the slave cabin, one room long, dirt floor, no windows. I went to the missionary Baptist church where Marster and Missus went. She dye with copperas and walnut and wild indigo and things like dat and made pretty cloth. During their pursuit of the escaped Negroes, the Cherokee Militia discovered the bodies of the two slave bounty hunters. And we had corn bread and cakes baked every day. We was too tired when we come in to play any games. And we learned some things about religion from an old colored preacher named Tom Vann. Every morning the slaves would run to the commissary and get what they wanted for that day. I think I hear 'em say mamma was born on Bull Creek; that somewhere up near Kansas, maybe near Coffeyville. They get something they need too. Everybody laugh and was happy. 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