Identical loading dies are used for both. However, the 130-grain TTSX did not, mainly because the heavier bullet could not achieve as much velocity. The 300 AAC Blackout (300 BLK, or 7.62x35mm) was created by Advanced Armament Corp. and Remington in order to provide the military with a way to shoot .30 caliber bullets from the M4 platform with only a barrel change. I'm using 17.8 grains of H110 (Win296 equivalent) for the 125 grain Hornady SST. I think you could safely start at 4.8 grains of HP-38 behind those plated bullets. Its really a great 300 Blackout powder. Accuracy was not. Load: 125 grain Speer TNT, 17.6 grains H110. Converting 223 Rem brass into what you need to load 300 Blackout is straightforward enough, a project you can take on with a saw, jig, and a few other pieces of reloading paraphernalia. 18gr H110/ W296 , 125 SST, 2.11 COAL, CCI 450 primers. Subsonic loads were shot at 50 yards, where energy delivery remains above 500 foot pounds. They are only safe in the rifle shown and may not be safe in yours. : 1.831" Powder: 10.3 gr 13.0 gr Vel. 300 AAC Blackout is also finding use with hunters, who may not have been able to legally hunt with .223 in their state, and who prefer .30 caliber bullets for medium-sized game. You might ask, what is the .300 Blackout good for? My conclusion is the 125-grain AccuBond needs a crimping groove. A new eyewear brand created with the outdoors in mind. Gain a deep knowledge of ballistic science and access our improved ballistic calculator. The latter has nearly twice the propellant, and is therefore better able to fell very distant game. The 300 Blackout is frequently available with 200 and 220 grain bullets. The 1:7 twist worked fairly well with the heavier, 220 SMKs, with groups ranging from 1.082-1.477 MOA. During that week-long hunt, the Highlander functioned flawlessly. Writer | Tyrant Designs CNC Blog 300 AAC Blackout Bullet Weight: 125 Gr Bullet Type: Hollow Point Case Type: Brass combine_review: RED300,RED300CASE Just for kicks, I also assembled subsonic loads with two heavyweight bullets. Just like with the 190-grain VLD handload and most factory subsonic loads, bullet expansion was nonexistent and penetration was excessive. For load testing the Trijicon thermal unit used in Texas was exchanged for Swarovskis AR-ideal 1-8x 24mm Z8i scope set in Precision Hardcore Gear Black Opps 30mm rings. Of these, 122 grain and 123 grain loads are by far the most common. 58 Reviews. After testing 11 currently available .300 AAC Blackout factory loads, I came to a couple conclusions. . by duckhunter15 Wed Sep 10, 2014 11:18 pm, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited, Been looking around here and can't seem to find anything.I must be missing it. $ 28.66 $ 27.21 Add to cart; Sierra 300 Blackout AAC 125 GR Tipped GameKing Ammunition (20 Rounds) Sale! Like the 125-grain Nosler AccuBond, this bullet delivered sub-par accuracy in the AAC carbine. Rifle. Is that obsolete now, or not recommended. powder: A1680. Since I wasnt trying to build a wildcat 300-221, which is what a modified 300 BLK would effectively be, I went with a standard chamber cut by a Manson Reamer. Powder Bul Weight C.O.L. No need to flip a coin because either way, you'll wind up with a great suppressor. Carbine length gas tube. Even with vertical stringing apparenta result of the supersonic/subsonic velocity mixthe 190-grain VLD load was more accurate than any of the subsonic factory loads I tested. Does the MagnetoSpeed V3 chronograph change group size and point of impact? 6.5 Creedmoor 130gr CX [PDF] 6.5 PRC 130gr CX [PDF] 6.5mm-284 Norma 130gr CX [PDF] If you are in the middle of nowhere and need ammo, this may not be readily available. GUNS. Guest Writer | NRA Shooting Sports USA Guest Writer | Boyds Gunstocks Blog by randyrucker Wed Sep 10, 2014 7:07 pm, Post Cycles better than anything. Hunting bullets in weights from 110 to 230 grains were chosen (no FMJ, target or varmint numbers), though all would also serve for self-defense. Brass is NEW Norma 300 Black Out head . .452 diameter, 300 grain Wide Flat Nose Bullets (50 count) 45 Colt: Match Solid: 300: VIEW: 07400140SP .400 caliber, 140 grain Xtreme Penetrator Lead-Free Bullets . AR-platform rifles optimized to run subsonic 300 Blackout tend to fire supersonic ammo poorly. Id start at 17.0 and work up in .3gr increments and find your node before pressure starts.. Have experienced some unstability problems with cans and 1:8 barrels with 220 gr sierras. On the up side, firing the 300 BLK from a precision rifle is a pleasure. Firefighter/EMS To comply with the new e-Privacy directive, we need to ask for your consent to set the cookies. Getting serious now with reloading 300 Blackout. Cartridges are loaded with brass casings, making reloading with conventional equipment easy and economical. ALWAYS CONSULT COMPREHENSIVE REFERENCE MANUALS AND BULLETINS OF PROPER TRAINING REQUIREMENTS, PROCEDURES, TECHNIQUES AND SAFETY PRECAUTIONS BEFORE ATTEMPTING ANY SIMILAR ACTIVITIES. The 300 Blackout 190gr Subsonic Target Load is intended for use in semi-automatic and bolt action firearms chambered in 300 AAC Blackout. 10.0 gr. However, I found the .300 Blackout clearly has a subsonic advantage and, in turn, offers more versatilityas long as the AR chambered for the round is equipped with an adjustable gas block to maximize reliability. Select your cartridge type from the drop-down list. by Chris6424 Wed Sep 10, 2014 3:17 pm, Post I used load data from Hodgdon and Accurate, but my first attempt yielded supersonic velocities. Made in the USA with premium components, American Gunner ammunition combines generations of ballistics know-how with modern technology. The NRA, its agents, officers and employees accept no responsibility for the results obtained by persons using such data and disclaim all liability for any consequential injuries or damages. Thanks again. Close range only. I personally always use the A1680 for the heavy subsonic loads and load H110 or Win296 under bullets 150 grains or less. The Blackout feeds from standard .223 Remington/5.56 NATO AR magazines, limiting overall loaded length (OAL) to 2.26 inches. document.write(new Date().getFullYear()) Copyright Hornady, Privacy Policy | CCPA Request | Accessibility Policy | Terms of Use, Designed and developed by IdeaBank Marketing. 7.3 grains of trail boss seems high even for max charge. To comply with the new e-Privacy directive, we need to ask for your consent to set the cookies. Taken from Tenth Edition reloading manual. Jones of SKK. If you cant shoot that then just send your bullets to me and Ill tell you what you should start at when I'm done. Speer TNT bullets and Enforcer powder CMP M1 Garand WRA June 2021 Smith and Wesson Model 610 - 10mm FUN Smith and Wesson Model 645 - The Miami Vice Classic CMP Winchester WRA Garand Summer 2021 Rock Slide USA - Glock 10mm Build LEE APP with Universal Case Feeder and Collator Never miss a post! VEL. Then select your bullet weight, powder manufacturer and powder type. JavaScript seems to be disabled in your browser. Out of stock. AR, I did not have to taper-crimp bullets weighing less than 150 grains. We offer Hornady load data with over 180.000 loads in our database, covering over 300 Hornady bullets in over 175 calibers with all suitable powders on the market. (At my location the speed of sound was about 1,143 fps on the test date.) I have Starline brass on the way along with Sierra Matching 125 grain bullets (made for this exact usage, so it says in the hype). Add to Cart. The projectiles used in subsonic .300 AAC Blackout loads usually weigh between 180- and 220-grains. Just start in the middle of the range for your given powder and shoot it. They described these bullets as: 308 130 gr, Mark 319, sost, otm. The short case length doesnt necessarily effect feeding, since the bullet of the loaded cartridge is similar in length to the 223 Remington, but it can make ejection difficult from many bolt action rifles. Since my post back in Jan 2019, I have switched and lil Gun cut the groups in half.Sub sonic. Eventually, they got their own 300 Blackout cartridge SAAMI approved in 2011. By cross referencing the group size shown on the target with the group size in the table, you can determine which group was shot by which load. <>/Font<>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text/ImageB/ImageC/ImageI] >>/MediaBox[ 0 0 792 612] /Contents 4 0 R/Group<>/Tabs/S/StructParents 0>>
The best 5 shot group was .334 MOA while the worst was 3.787 MOA! Penetration indicates the point in the gel block where the largest piece of the bullet came to rest in inches. In a life and death situation-who cares about the noise? Scroll right to see energy, drop and coefficient data. For what it's worth, sizing brass without the expander ball also goes a long way toward keeping case necks straight, which generally results in solid accuracy. Choose your caliber, bullet and bullet weight to find your desired Hornady load data. A suppressed, . Though fired successfully in my rifles any reloading data represented in RED LETTERING represent a known load to exhibit pressure signs Flat primers, blown primers, case splits etc. 300 Blackout is also similar in size to the 7.62x39mm cartridge used in the AK-47, but it is optimized for use with AR-15s. In addition, my testing revealed it is relatively easy to assemble .300 AAC Blackout handloadsboth subsonic and supersonicthat are more accurate than factory loads. | An Official Journal Of The NRA, 5 Tips For Better Handloads | An Official Journal Of The NRA, Basic Tips for Volume Reloading | An Official Journal Of The NRA, First Look: New Shotgun Suppressors from JK Armament, First Look: Armasight Watchman Illuminator, Thoughts On The Double-Action Revolver | An Official Journal Of The NRA, Should You Carry Your Gun With an Empty Chamber? Mountains got its own way. Sold out $ 61. . This. Details are below. Sierra .357 / 38 125 Grain Jacketed Soft Point (100 Bullets) Sale! Instability with 1:8 caused problems with loger cans, bullet maybe wobbling after rifling. My Account; 877-229-0351 Mon - Fri . None of the 210-grain VLD handloads cycled the carbine's action. If you're looking for a multi-purpose load for the .300 AAC Blackout, this may be the best bullet. The 300 Blackout case was developed from the 223 Rem. I did similar tests. Rifleshooter.com and its authors, do not assume any responsibility, directly or indirectly for the safety of the readers attempting to follow any instructions or perform any of the tasks shown, or the use or misuse of any information contained herein, on this website. In previous testing, the special-built 110-grain Barnes TTSX bullet loaded in the Barnes Vor-Tx and DoubleTap Tactical offerings delivered the usual, outstanding Triple-Shock terminal performance. They recently published updated and expanded data for the .300 AAC Blackout caliber getting into more subsonic and heavier grain weight data; two areas that are typically lacking for information. (LogOut/ Sign up with your email address to receive news and updates. 19 & 19.5 and test. SIG Sauer Elite Performance 125-grain Sierra MatchKing. PRESCRIPTION 2Bullet: 110-grain Speer Deep Curl RNPowder/Charge: Hodgdon Lil'Gun, 19.3 grainsPrimer: Federal Small RifleCartridge Overall Length: 1.77 inchesMuzzle Velocity: 2,401 fps. Here is a start. Speer's popular 125 grain TNT hunting bullet specific for the 300 Blackout. June 1, 2016 LC brass, win primer, 19.2 grains 1680 powder. JavaScript is disabled. I plan to build a bolt action with a 16.5 barrel and will use projectiles between 180 220 gr., so not sure if I should go with the 1-8 or get a 1-7 barrel blank made. How do you guys get different data for Win 296 and H110? Since you can work with bullets from 110 grain up to 240 grain in both hypersonic and subsonic loads it boasts tremendous, close-range versatility. I took no special pains putting these loads together. So it's off to the reloading bench for me. Moderators:gds, bakerjw, renegade, bamachem, Post 1 0 obj
The cartridge shares case-head dimensions and body taper with the .223 Remington. Penetration was deep due to lack of expansion, but the wound cavity was narrow. Either the bullet was slipping forward in the case when the cartridge was chambered, or the carbine just did not like the AccuBond. Jones envisioned with the cartridge's predecessor, the .300 Whisper. I use 22.4 with 110 grain solid copper, and I have nothing as far as pressure goes, you could start a bit below there. I'm actually being very helpful giving you a starting point. Bullets handloaded for the .300 Blackout include the (1) Berger 110-grain FB Target, (2) Berger 125 FB Target, (3) Speer 165 boat-tail, (4) Lehigh Defense 194 Maximum Expansion and the (5) Berger 210-grain VLD Target. PRESCRIPTION 7Bullet: Berger 190-grain VLD HuntingPowder/Charge: Accurate 1680/12.2 grainsPrimer: Federal Small RifleCartridge Overall Length: 2.22 inchesMuzzle Velocity: 1,187 fps. The twist rate needed to accommodate the heavy subsonic bullets makes finding accurate super sonic loads difficult. Second stupidly and even dangerously compressed loads The 300 AAC Blackout delivers ballistic performance comparable to 7.6239, yet possesses a base diameter that optimizes functionality in an AR-type platform. All content Copyright 1998-2018 Rifleshooter.com, FTC disclosure: some links on this site are monetized, Sig Sauer MCX Virtus PCP Air Rifle Review- Initial Impressions, Project Guns- Gunsmithing articles and posts, check out my 300 AAC Blackout Review from September 2012, 125, 135, 175 and 220 grain Sierra MatchKings, AICS style 223 magazine from Accurate Mag, 6.5 Creedmoor load development: 142 grain Sierra MatchKing with Reloader 17 and W760, MagnetoSpeed V3 versus Oehler 35P: Chronograph comparison and review, 338 Lapua Magnum: Barrel Length Versus Muzzle Velocity (30-17 inches), Making a custom screw: Savage Model 99 fore-end repair, Quick rifle bedding tip: Easy removal of bedding material from pillars, Battle Arms Development Ambidextrous Safety Selector (BAD-ASS) Review, 6.5 Creedmoor load development: 16.5 inch barrel, 123 SMK and 140 SMK, 223 Remington/5.56 NATO, velocity versus barrel length: A man, his chop box and his friends rifle, 6.5 Creedmoor load development: Sierra 107 TMK and Varget, Review: Sig Sauer 6.5 Creedmoor 140 gr. All Reloading Equipment; Case Preparation; Powder Measures & Scales; Reloading Accessories; Reloading Books & Manuals; Also note when examining published materials you will find a wide range of loads that are deemed safe. However, the .300 Blackout is available in a wide range of bullet weights. Examining the table above, note the wide range of accuracy, velocity and standard deviation achieved with the different loads. works like a charm. If you use CFE Blk you can shove them as full of powder as you like and still not get pressure. PRESCRIPTION 3Bullet: 125-grain Nosler AccuBondPowder/Charge: Accurate 5744, 20.8 grains (compressed)Primer: Federal Small RifleCartridge Overall Length: 2.13 inchesMuzzle Velocity: 2,203 fps. 4 0 obj
You are using an out of date browser. This had a horrible effect on accuracy. With an impact velocity of 1,920 fps, this bullet did not expand at all and begin tumbling when the polymer tip came off after about 12 inches of penetration. Just finished up doing some testing with this bullet in the .300 BLK, I thought other may be interested in the results. SPT Pro-Hunter C.O.A.L . Writer | OutdoorHub.com Introducing the latest products from the worldwide leader in ammunition. That's including two dismal groups caused by the inability to taper-crimp Nosler bullets. Barrel Length. Winchester 300 Blackout Ammunition USA Ready RED300 125 Grain Open Tip CASE 200 Rounds. %
That said, short-tubed AR pistols remain highly popular as maneuverable truck guns, particularly on Texas private lands where roads are corned and hogs often shot from moving vehicles perfectly legal in the Lone Star State. Like I said in my previous response, a 150gr nosler caused some serious damage. Safely store your firearms without breaking your back. Ive already been shooting their 55gr all copper in 5.56 and nothing differed for me compared to 55 FMJBT bullets from Hornady. I have shot a couple dozen through a Ruger ranch in 300 BO, suppressed. Same goes for 9mm in ar pistol platform n glock, .45 acp in ar pistol . Velocity Boundaries (Feet per Second) of: 2700 1400 1400 1400. Min Charge Max Charge Optimal Charge Bullet Make Bullet Type Primer Notes; Accurate - A1680: 190 gr. With some loadsparticularly those using the 125-grain Nosler AccuBond and 150-grain Nosler Ballistic Tipthe bullet would migrate forward in the case when the cartridge entered the chamber. These 2 were poking their heads up out of the food plot last summer at the same time. A few manufacturers offer bolt action rifles chambered in the 300 BLK. 12 gr. The American Gunner line of ammunition is a collection of tried-and-true, versatile loads that are popular with shooters for their target shooting, hunting or self-defense needs. After investigation, AAC found the 7.6239 cases aggressive taper too extreme for a standard M4 magazine to accommodate. 300 AAC Blackout ; new 300 test loads Theme . The Blackout allows for the creation of supersonic loads with bullets weighing 90 to 180 grains and subsonic (less than 1,125 fps) loads popular with suppressor owner with 200- to 230-grain bullets. Shooting the USMC Pistol Qualification: Combat Pistol Program (CPP). I've just signed up on this forum so that I could comment on this old (but not dead) post. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Enter your email address to follow the Sierra Bullet's blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. That's the max I use, I think I started with 17.0 and worked up in .2 grain increments. Palmetto PA-10 Review: How accurate is a $400 AR-10? Oal 2.260 8.7 grains. 300 Blackout is taking the shooting world by storm, and for good reason. : 3 0 obj
Though I had used the 110-grain Speer Deep Curl for plinking quite a bit, I had never tested its terminal performance before this project. With law-enforcement agencies moving away from the .40 S&W and going back to the 9 mm, the .40s future is cloudy. PRESCRIPTION 5Bullet: 130-grain Hornady SPPowder/Charge: Hodgdon Lil'Gun, 19.0 grainsPrimer: Federal Small RifleCartridge Overall Length: 2.02 inchesMuzzle Velocity: 2,259 fps. (ft/s) PRESSURE 223 Remington 55 GR HDY FMJ Hodgdon Tite Group .224" 2.200" 300 Blackout 125 GR NOS BT Hodgdon Trail Boss .308" 2.060" 300 Blackout 135 GR SIE VAR HP Hodgdon Trail Boss .308" 2.055" 300 Blackout 150 GR HDY IB Hodgdon Trail . 300 Blackout with 125 gr. If you're unsure, or just want options, check as many boxes as you'd like. The .30 Blackout was originally offered as the .30 AAC Blackout.All of these named cartridges are nearly identical in dimensions and could probably use each others' loading data without any problem. Terminal performance was excellent. Impact velocity was obtained with a Shooting Chrony positioned in front of the gel block. Well, there is not much extensive data for reloading either, but Sierra Bullets is trying to help change that. I immediately assumed the same bullet set-out problem was to blame, so I also tested it in the CVA Scout. To the point of ruining a lot of meat. Each load was fired into blocks of 10-percent ordnance gelatin positioned 15 feet from the muzzle. AAC 7.62 Suppressor , Crimp is most important as heavy bullets want to move on recoil in the mag and will cause vertical stringing. It is extremely easy to convert an AR-15 to fire 300 Blackout ammunition, and the rounds ballistic performance is different enough to justify purchasing the barrel necessary to do so. We use cookies to make your experience better. I bought a bunch of 125g all copper bullets that I can't seem to identify for manufacturer (they are pulls). They do not detail the comprehensive training, procedures, techniques and safety precautions that are absolutely necessary to properly carry on similar activity. Smart and safe loader will back off the load and work it back up simply due to powder age and lot variation. I have shot a few of their 190 grain 30 cal bullets in my blackout. While a relatively new addition to their cartridge stable, this .300 AAC Blackout 125 grain round is . With over 20 years in the sport, I decided to was time [], 6.5 Creedmoor load development: 142 grain Sierra MatchKing with Reloader 17 and W760 The Sierra 142 grain MatchKing is a popular bullet for 6,5mm shooters. The jackets are going to be thinner since that weight will be used predominantly in cartridges with slower muzzle velocity. Login Register. What is Your Favorite Piece of ReloadingEquipment. The 300 Blackout's .30 caliber bullet can be made especially long, and as the result may weigh up to 220 grains quadruple the weight of the typical 223 Rem round's. So heavy a bullet conveys a subsonic muzzle velocity and correspondingly softer report. $29.99. Ordered 1:7 barrel to another gun, used same loads in exactly same conditions, no issues. Starting Loads Maximum Loads CALIBER BULLET WEIGHT MANUFACTURER POWDER BULLET DIAMETER C.O.L. 220 sierras were stable to 150 meters with 1:7 twist. . So heavy a bullet conveys a subsonic muzzle velocity and correspondingly softer report. (LogOut/ Brass is NEW Norma 300 Black Out head stamped brass . 6.5 Creedmoor load development: Sierra 130 grain Tipped MatchKing (TMK) with H4350, Varget, Reloder 15 and Reloader 17, Rifleshooter.com reviews the Savage Model 10 FCP-SR I never owned a Savage rifle. Guest Writer | Sierra Bullets Blog You may have a great load that is pushing max and loading from an 8lb keg, and a few years later you buy another keg. Finally, some .300 AAC Blackout brass has crimped primers, and there seems to be no rhyme or reason for this occurrence. What is more powerful a 7.62 or a 300 Blackout? x}% 9
V/@]Jz$Y-l7 m1#`2A2*tTfn2+O~W|S/_^Se=~oL/Ooh}k4m{zc{>{!w-77cz-Nnxo#j~_~t{pt/c|~z'Gc;2`gk)i,0 1cOh||z>3z L`];H\Gwyb^z-_.oWlw}E> In my Palmetto State Armory 7.5 upper the load functions perfectly ! 125 Grain: Bullet Caliber: 30 Caliber . The bullet almost exploded inside the gel block, shredding the first 8 inches. The AccuBond's jacket is thicker than most conventional bullets, and the core is not pure, soft lead, making it harder for a taper crimp to take hold. For reloading information:WARNING: The loads shown are for informational purposes only. Imagine trying to design a ballistic compensation scope for a cartridge that can use 110 grain projectiles traveling at 2,400 feet per second AND 245 grain projectiles traveling at 950 feet per second. 180 grain rainier wedges cycled with 11ish grains of IMR4198 out of my PSA 10.5in suppressed with Syrac Ordinance adjustable gas block. Its really a great 300 Blackout powder. Rather than having a steep shoulder and overbore case, like the 20 Vartarg (a 221 Remington necked down to 20 caliber), it has a relatively straight design that requires fast magnum pistol powders. 18.0-18.2 H110 works good for 125 gr weight bullets. It provides similar effectiveness to the 7.6239 or the slightly more powerful 30-30 cartridges except works in the more up-to-date AR15 platform. Any thoughts? SKU: A4625--10 Categories: Ammo, GameChanger, In-stock Tag: GameChanger. This load was very accurate, besting the most accurate factory load I fired from the AAC MPW carbine by more than .50 inch. Although they share .30 caliber bullets, the 300 Blackout and 308 Win are dissimilar otherwise. Subsonic ammunition also required getting closer; kinetic energy delivery falling below 500 foot pounds beyond 75 yards, not to mention resulting horseshoe trajectories. <>>>
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These two shots occurred in about 3 seconds. Reading a few different reports of accuracy issues with the cartridge in general (youll notice many of the sub sonic groups published online are shot at 25 yards!- more on this later), I came to the realization, that most of the good groups found with the cartridge were shot with either a special chamber (not a 300 BLK which has a long throat to accommodate the heavy bullets) or a slower twist rate to work well with the light bullets (SAAMI specifies a 1:8 twist, click link). Known for its ability to deliver heavy subsonic bullets for standard AR magazines while cycling the action in suppressed applications, it also works well with lighter supersonic loads, offering a similarexternal ballistic performance to the 7.62x39mm Russian (check out my 300 AAC Blackout Review from September 2012). Its essentially the same as the original .300 Whisper, but the Blackout includes a .015-inch longer throat. I have used this program for years and tke it with a very large grain of salt! PRESCRIPTION 1Bullet: 110-grain Sierra HPPowder/Charge: Hodgdon Lil'Gun, 20.0 grainsPrimer: Federal Small RifleCartridge Overall Length: 1.89 inchesMuzzle Velocity: 2,402 fps. Occasionally, we will temporarily publish load data on this page when a bullet becomes available and is not yet listed in the latest edition of the handbook. Don Fischer The very best prices for in-stock 300 AAC Blackout Ammo rifle 125 grains | Cheap 300 AAC Blackout Ammunition rifle 125 grains - AmmoSeek.com . Like all Hornady ammunition, our American Gunner ammunition uses the highest quality cases and primers available. 2020-08-03 Hodgdon's reloading site shows 1680 fps for a 13.4 grain starting load with Lil' Gun (this is for a 180 gr. Ballistically speaking, the 7.62x39 mm (center) is similar to the .300 Blackout (l.) and .30-30 Win. V RIFLE RELOADING DATA Test Specifications/ Components Firearm Used: CMMG Barrel Length: 16" Twist: 1 x 8" Case: Remington Trim-to Length: 1.363" Primer: Rem 7 1/2 Remarks: The 300 AAC Blackout (300 BLK, or 7.62x35mm) was created by Advanced Armament Corp. and Remington in order to provide the . There may be rate exceptions but your in for a lot of frustration if you go that route. I spent several hours chambering dummy cartridges with a variety of bullets and measuring set-out, and in fact, I found it occurred to some extent with every bullet tested. The gun doesnt move, there is even less recoil than an AR because you dont have the mass of the bolt carrier reciprocating in the rifle. Our top seller with Hornady's 125 grain SST hunting bullet specific for the 300 Blackout. The .300 Blackout is most effective in rifle-length barrels, pistols giving up approximately 10 fps for every inch of barrel removed from an 18-inch start (somewhat less when loaded with hotter pistol powders). Let your fellow shooters know share this article using the Facebook, Twitter and other social media icons below. With the 210-grain Berger VLD Target handload, four of the 10 rounds were above the speed of sound even after reducing the powder charge. One Blackout concern, especially with subsonic loads, is initiating ample expansion at velocities slower than many bullets were engineered to provide, though many companies offer Blackout-specific designs (see Barnes and Cutting Edge bullets). 300 Blackout W/ CFE BLK Load Data Question Thread starter ACMAN; . Shooter's Reference Load Data for .300 AAC Blackout .300 AAC Blackout - Manufacturer Loading Data Shellholder: Hornady #16 Lee #4 Lyman #26 RCBS #10 Pistol Rifle Cowboy Starting Max Source 100 gr HPCE / OTCE (Lapua) 0.308" Powder: N105 (VihtaVuori) Primer: Small Rifle Case: Lapua Trim Length: 1.362" C.O.L. It has since become popular for a wide range of uses including hunting and home defense. I rounded up a variety of bullets I suspected would offer terminal performance not available from factory supersonic ammo, and then went to work at the loading press. What could be the problem with the load in the 16.5 ? experiment convinced me a Blackout/subsonic-ammunition combo isnt ideal for such work. 1020FPS with last round bolt hold open Click to view trajectory chart. OTM Match Grade Rifle Ammunition. Converting an AR-15 to fire 300 Blackout is as simple as swapping its barrel. by rebel Wed Sep 10, 2014 8:28 pm, Post The bullet expanded the widest of any I tested and pushed to 15 inches, where it exited the bottom of the block. Then select your bullet weight, powder manufacturer and powder type. The round delivers performance mirroring the Soviet 7.62x39mm. And safe loader will back off the load and work it back up simply to! From Hornady the highest quality cases and primers available currently available.300 AAC 125... 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